IT’S ON! Chris versus “DC versus Marvel” - Part One!
With the onslaught of comic book movies coming this summer, it seems that once again, DC and Marvel Comics are battling for your love. So who’s better? Which comic company rocks the other’s casbah, whether the sharif likes it or not?
WHO WILL WIN? YOU DECIDE!
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In 1996 DC and Marvel Comics decided to hold the nerdliest fanboy popularity geek-off contest ever. They called it “DC Versus Marvel,” or “Marvel Versus DC,” depending on which company was publishing the particular issue (from now on I’m going to refer to it as “DC vs. Marvel” because I like DC a whole lot more). “DC vs. Marvel” was to be the last word in determining which publishing company had the bigger dick. Both companies’ master representatives have made passionate but gentle love to me on several occasions, so they could have just asked me (Marvel’s Stan Lee ranks high for length and hardness, but DC’s Jack Kirby wins for girth and his smokey, earthy taste). But, NO, they decided to do it the hard way. Eleven characters from each company were chosen to battle it out, one on one, in what is probably the lamest story about heroes hitting each other since King David stole the credit for Elhanan’s victory over Goliath.
I’ll break the story down issue by issue, but I’ll keep it brief, since I know what each one of us is REALLY interested in is which company won, and if the company we love more is actually as cool as we hope we are by backing it. That last sentence makes perfect sense, you just have to read it slow.

ISSUE #1: This is not your typical we’re-gonna-fight -soon setup, which is one of the big reasons I liked this series so much despite is MANY, MANY flaws. Most hero vs. hero battles between different companies’ characters start off assuming the combatants inhabit the same world. Not here. This issue wastes no time establishing that the DC and Marvel universes are separate, and that the characters don’t know each other. The very first thing we see is a confused Spider-man on a Gotham rooftop with the Joker. They chat amiably, since Spidey has no idea that the dude’s a psychotic mass murderer. It looks like they’re gonna be good friends soon. Can’t you see Spider-man and the Joker going to a ball game, or double dating With Harley and Mary Jane at a chick-flick, or hitting a few bars and a strip club on a wild, wacky Saturday night? They should be roomies.

Oh, Joker, you so craaazy!
Anyway, soon the Marvel and DC universes start to merge. No one knows why or how this is happening, so the heroes decide upon the safest, most reasonable and humane course of action: they just start punching people. Bane and Captain America duke it out, Daredevil takes down The Riddler, my main man Bruce Wayne hands Bullseye his ass down in the Batcave, whatever, whatever, whatever. It appears that the main point of all of this is to show off the artwork, which I must admit is muy impressive. The Captain America/Bane fight just looks too cool. And there we have the first major thumbs-up for this series: it’s just SOOOO damn pretty.

ISSUE #2: Since not much happened in Issue #1, I guess the writers thought they had to really move this one along. After some more sweet looking Captain America vs. Bane action, the writers waste no time in establishing what I like to call ‘The Deal.’ Here’s The Deal: billions of years ago, two colossally powerful entities popped into existence. The books call them the ‘brothers,’ but they don’t have fat white girlfriends or ice all up in dey grill like its dey baby-daddy birfday, so I don’t know what be up with dat. Mmm hmm, I know dats right.

Foshizzle.
Anyway, the brothers had a fight which destroyed the universe, and a whole bunch of new universes were born, and they blah blah blah blah blah. Each brother represents one of the DC and Marvel universes, and they are each pitting champions from their universe to fight the other brutha from a different motha’s universe’s champions, and whomever’s heroes immobilize more of the other’s heroes, wins, and the loser will just step back and calmly allow themselves to be killed and their universe to be destroyed forever and ever, amen. Is this confusing? How about contrived? How about fucking RETARDED?

What has to be the most ridiculously conceived contest in comics history is really nothing more than an excuse for a bunch of heroes to beat the shit out of each other, and serves only as a prelude to the most AWESOME IDEA I HAVE EVER HEARD TWO COMIC COMPANIES USING TO EMPTY MY WALLET. I’m talking, of course, about Amalgam Comics, where DC and Marvel COMBINED their heroes and universes, resulting in just phenomenal ideas like Spider-boy (Spider-man + Superboy), Hyena (Sabretooth + The Joker), Speed Demon (The Flash + Etrigan The Demon + Ghost Rider), and, my personal favorite, Dr. StrangeFate (Dr. Strange + Dr. Fate + Professor X). More on that later, but before we get there, we gotsta have some fights.
Before you start thinking that the fights are going to make any more sense then the premise, let me warn you: the outcomes were determined before the books were written, and were decided entirely on the basis of fan votes. That’s right, true believers, fans got to VOTE to see who would win, and logic be damned. You could email your vote in or send in a ballot that was actually printed in the back of some of the comics. Angels and ministers of grace defend us. This makes for some of the dumbest, most fucked up, inexplicable victories you’ll ever see outside of US politics. Honestly, I myself have a very hard time understanding why I like this series as much as I do. It almost makes me want to stop writing this article because so much of these books is so damn STUPID.
Fuck it, I’ve already written this much. I’m in to the end.

ROUND 1: Thor vs. Captain Marvel
Victor: Thor
Thor is the Norse god of thunder and lightning. Captain Marvel has the wisom of Solomon, strength of Hercules, the stamina of Atlas, the powers of Zeus, the courage of Achilles, and the speed of Mercury. That’s Thor’s power of one god versus Captain Marvel’s power of two gods, one Titan, one half-god, one half-nymph, and, according to the Bible, the wisest human being who has ever lived. Damn, Gina, that’s a lot for old Thor to contend with. Fortunately for him, these stories were voted on by comic book fans and don’t have to make any sense. Long story short, Captain Marvel needs to say “SHAZAM!” and be struck by a bolt of magical lightning to get down with his bad self. He says “SHAZAM!” one too many times and Thor catches on; the next time Cap says it, Thor (god of lightning, remember) throws his hammer to intercept the bolt, knocking the non-super version of Captain Marvel unconscious. Thor wins.
A lot of these fights I’ve labeled BULLSHIT, because they’re so fucking stupid I just have to bitch and whine about them via the impotent anonymous safety of the internet. But not this one. I was rooting for Captain Marvel, but this actually made a lot of sense. The writers found a flaw unique to Captain Marvel and an ability unique to a god of lightning, and used those aspects of these characters to explain the outcome. The story would have been better if Captain Marvel, who logically outguns Thor by a wide degree, would have knocked Thor around a bit before Thor figured out his vulnerabilty, but the story stands on its own as is. It was smart writing, and made for a pretty sweet, if way too short, battle which was believable within the contexts of both characters - I’m cool with that. And the art, once again, was magnificent. Really, each of these fights should have been given their own comic book, but I guess you could do a lot worse if you had to do what they did here, and squeeze a major confrontation like this onto the ludicrously small space availble on ONLY FIVE LITTLE FUCKING PAGES, YOU CHEAPSKATE BASTARD FUCKS!
Almost immediately we skip to another fight, already in progress.
ROUND 2: Aquaman vs. Sub-Mariner
Victor: Aquaman
Sorry about the shitty pic, but my scanner’s not working, and this is the best I could find on the old Intartron 3000, as Q says.
I like Aquaman. I think Sub-Mariner is little more than a gay Vulcan-wannabe pussy-boy ripoff of Aquaman, with an even gayer bikini than Aquaman’s old one. I don’t know anything at all about him, but that’s the impression I formed the instant I looked at him, and that’s the biased and ignorant opinion I’ve chosen to perceive as absolutely factual, despite arguments or evidence against, which I will refuse to accept or even acknowledge anyway. Damn, I would have made an AWESOME Christian. Bringin’ in the sheaves!
Aquaman takes a lot of shit from fans and would-be comedians about being a useless hero and talking to fish, but apparently people forgot about Namor, who is maybe the most pointlessly homosexual thing I’ve ever seen since I walked in on my father wearing a wedding dress and blowing a Shetland pony at my bat-mitzvah.
There are a number of things wrong with that last sentence, and the first person who lists them ALL in a posted comment at the end of this article will receive a Shetland pony related and/or Aquaman related prize of some sort. Yes, I’m serious.
Aquaman has changed a lot since the 80s Super-Friends era. He’s grown his hair and beard out and had one of his hands chopped off and replaced with a knife/hook/harpoon thing. He’s looks like a blonde version of Grizzly Adams who went completely insane, turned all grim and goth, got REALLY into shape, and started talking to fish and telling Superman to fuck off all the time. He’s also apparently married to some gorgeous redhead AND he’s fucking some incredibly hot-ass purple chick on the side (not seen in this series). I don’t know who draws her, but I swear to god, the dude used some kinda Hatian voodoo witchcraft to pull this chick from the deepest, most twisted sexual part of my reptile brain. I’ve never been so turned on by a cartoon in my life. Full violet lips, smooth lavender skin, gill slits, webbed digits, hint of scales here and there; just damn. Besides that, Aquaman has also deveoped his fish-telepathy thing to the point where he can focus on a person’s basal ganglia, a part of the human brain’s motor controls which can be evolutionarily traced to our amphibious marine ancestors, and give that person a FUCKING SEIZURE.
Lets review that list, shall we: King of Atlantis, absolute ruler of 78% of the Earth’s surface, looks like a psychotic Viking who feeds on a strict diet of baby heads and mortal sin, harpoon for a hand, hot redhead wife with giant tits, bangs even hotter purple mermaids on the side, tells Superman to go fuck himself, and can give you a seizure with his brain. HELL YEAH! It’s official: Aquaman rocks the shit! But before he can kick Namor’s ass, which I’m thinking is almost certainly no stranger to a firm pounding, we’re interrupted by…

ROUND 3: The Flash vs. Quicksilver
Victor: The Flash
Der. I don’t know much about him, but I think Quicksilver’s a mutant. Really, who in the Marvel universe isn’t? I also think he’s supposed to be Magneto’s son, so maybe that’s why they let him compete in the big pan-universal herolympics. Fuckin’ nepotism. In the back of this issue it gives a short description of each character, their powers, and history. Quicksilver’s says “Superhuman speed (upper limit: speed of sound).” Okay, its faster than I can run, but The Flash’s description says “he can propel himself at speeds approaching the speed of light” and can do a shitload of other really cool things with his superspeed, like vibrate through solid objects or make them explode. Yet, before he beats Quicksilver’s mutant ass, he’s down on his hands and knees (I bet Namor would’ve recognized that position), having been suckerpunched a thousand times by Quicksilver. Before puching Quicksilver 50 bazillion times at the speed of light, The Flash says, “Almost had me there, fella!” Hey, Flash, is that the worst line you could come up with?
Guess not.
Almost had you? Really? Were you fucking napping during your fight??
Let’s look at the numbers here: the speed of sound at sea level is about 761 mph. The speed of light is about 670,616,629 mph. That means The Flash can move about 881,231 times faster than Quicksilver, and should be about 881,231 more likely to turn his little mutant face into Grade A ground sirloin. Why didn’t the writers condsider this? I dunno; maybe they aren’t the kind of guys who are fond of math. Maybe they don’t like it when reason intrudes on their art. Or maybe they’re just the kind of guys who think its clever to make Aquaman defeat Namor by asking a killer whale to jump on him. Turns out they are, because that’s exactly what happens two pages later. What a shitty ending; even Namor’s gay ass deserves better. The Aquaman/Namor battle could have been a 4-issue miniseries unto itself with all the possibilites those two characters bring to the table, but BOTH of these fights were resovled in a TOTAL OF SIX MEASLY FUCKING PAGES! Absolute crap! And so ends Issue #2.

ISSUE #3: We start this issue with Jubilee writing in her diary recapping the first two issues and mourning the fact that the Marvel universe is losing 2-1 and might be destroyed. Then she goes on to tell us that she has to fight Robin, which sucks for her ’cause she’s kinda got the hots for him. She even says that he may be “Mr. Right.”
You see? THIS is why each of these battles should have been a lot longer. I LOVE the idea that two heroes, whom otherwise would never have met, share an unexpected budding romance, but are forced by the very circumstances that brought them together to battle one other, and which ever hero (who’s job is to save people) wins, brings not only his love but an entire universe of innocent people closer to annihilation. God damn, I wish I’d thought of that! These two fell for each other awful fast, and it seems to me that there must be a billion more likely champions in each universe that the brothers would have chosen to defend their existence before picking fucking Robin and Jubilee, but still, its a great idea for a story. This series is full of just this: REALLY interesting interpersonal story ideas set against the backdrop of transuniversal stupidity. Anywho… Robin and Jubilee talk, kiss, talk some more, and then get down to it. Fighting, I mean.
ROUND 4: Robin vs. Jubilee
Victor: Robin
You know, as much as I used to watch the X-Men cartoon, I still don’t know what Jubilee’s powers are. They were never really clear about what she could or couldn’t do, or even how powerful she was. I know this is supposed to be the battle of the sidekicks (Jubilee had a kind of daughter/sister relationship with Wolverine), so I’m guessing she’s not too terribly potent, but from the looks of this fight, it honestly looks like making little colorful firecracker pops is the full extent of her power. Seriously, my camera flash is more powerful than this girl. She SUCKS. Also, I thought she was supposed to be Chinese, but the Jubilee I’m looking at here in Issue #3 is straight up Caucasian.
Robin is a trained gymnast, detective, and rooftop ninja vigilante; his preferred environment is darkness and his trade is swift, brutal violence. The cartoon and comics portray Jubilee as little more than a teeny-bopper mall chick who flashes pretty lights and suffers from dyscalculia (a kind of mathematical dyslexia). Fuck, if those are the extent of her powers, then my fat white ass could defeat her. This battle seems awfully one-sided. HOWEVER, check out these excerpts from her Wikipedia entry: “Jubilee has the untapped potential to detonate matter at a sub-atomic level which in theory is the equivalent of a fusion bomb…”
I’m well aware that anyone with an internet connection can write or edit a Wikipedia entry, but if this is even half accurate, then Jesus Christ! If that was the Jubilee Robin was fighting, he should’ve been fucking murdered! Fortunately for the Boy Wonder it appears that the powers that be at Marvel couldn’t get their heads out of their asses long enough to agree on how powerful Jube should be, so Robin got to fight the most useless version in the world: the love-struck white girl who throws lightning bugs version.
Since I can’t scan, god damn it fuck, and I can’t find any online pics of the big Robin/Jube showdown, here’s Sparrow, the superchick that Robin and Jubilee are “amalgamated” into:





This next bit is just too damn ridiculous for me not to tell you about. Robin hangs his cape on, I shit you not, a fucking MEAT HOOK, which dangles conveniently in the middle of the toy factory where they are fighting. Jube, who is apparently mentally retarded and has never watched a single fucking episode of Scooby-Doo, falls for it, attacks the cape, and Robin uses his batarang tow cables to wrap her up, Hoth style. Immobilzed, she loses. Her universe is now down 3-1, hanging on the precipice of COMPLETE UNIVERSAL OBLIVION, and here’s what she has to say about it:
“HEY! That was your cape! You tricked me!… You didn’t even have to land a punch. That’s so lame.”
No shit, Jubes; lame as hell! Have fun explaining to your friends that you lost your fight and endangered the existence of everyone and everything in your ENTIRE UNIVERSE because you got fooled by the same kind of stupid gag that Barney Rubble would use to trick his way into some chocolately Cocoa Pebbles (part of this complete breakfast). I take back what I said before; even with the incredible powers she apparently had at one point, I still think Robin would’ve won. She’s just too stupid.
Speaking of Robin, dude is apparently a complete hornball opportunistic date rapist. While Jubilee is bemoaning her loss, Robin tells her that he never planned to hit her, and then CRAWLS ON TOP OF HER. Smiling the whole time, he asks her if the ropes are too tight. Jubilee, all moony-eyed and come-hither vulnerable, asks “You are planning on untying me though, right, handsome?”

See, its the “handsome” part that lets you know she’s loving this. One too many nights dressed up in short shorts down in the Batcave has given old Robin a full blown bondage/rape fetish, and now he has a hot tied-up (Cauc)Asian chick underneath him wearing skin tight red vinyl with lots of straps and buckles. What’s even better is that Jubilee is TOTALLY INTO IT. For the first time in my life I find myself jealous of a comic book character. Unfortunately, we don’t get to see Robin hang her from the ceiling by her tits with a rubber gag ball in her mouth while he fucks her brains out, which, in turn, means we don’t get to find out if her vagina makes sparkly rainbow colored party lights when she comes. Too bad. But as a consolation prize, we next get to watch two of the most powerful superheroes in all of comicdom battle each other in deep space.
ROUND 5: Silver Surfer vs. Green Lantern
Victor: Silver Surfer
Like Jubilee, I’ve also never been sure what the Silver Surfer’s powers are. Because one of my favorite hobbies is speaking to socially awkward people who smell repulsive and spit when they talk, I’ve asked serious Silver Surer fanboys what his powers are, and here’s the answer I get every single time: “He’s the Herald of Galactus and weilds the Power Cosmic!” Thanks a bundle for the completely worthless non-answer, dickbreath. What are you, his fucking publicist? You’ve told me his job title, and the name of his power, but besides flying around in outer space on a fucking surf board and showing up on the occasional Joe Satriani album cover, WHAT DOES HE DO? I honestly don’t know.
On the flip side, I know all about Green Lantern. I won’t go into all of it, but there were once 1800 Green Lanterns with incredibly potent power rings whom acted as a galactic police force. Hal Jordan, the old Green Lantern, went nuts and started killing them off, after which the blue Munchkin guys in charge of the Green Lantern Corps focused all the power of the remaining rings into a single ring, which had its built-in safeguard vulnerabilty to the color yellow removed. One ring to rule them all. They gave it to a guy named Kyle Rayner, who’s first job was to go kick Hal Jordan’s ass. Long story short, the new Green Lantern is REALLY fucking powerful.

The whole DC vs. Marvel shindig was preceeded by a few crossovers, one of which was the Green Lantern/Silver Surfer comic “Unholy Alliances.” It was really good (worth tracking down, if you’re interested), and displayed the Silver Surfer keeping pace with GL. I’d estimate from that book that they’re about the same in terms of power, which means that Silver Surfer is pretty much a complete bad-ass. Apparently they’re both pretty unimaginative, though, because they fly around each other for a while before deciding just to ram into each other head on at top speed. Green Lantern was knocked unconscious and Silver Surfer ends the encounter with a few vapid lines about regretting having to hurt him, just like every other victor has done at the end of every other battle in this series. They’re all noble heroes; we get it, already.
I know I keep going on about how this comic looks great, but the illustrations of this battle are possibly the most impressivley colored comic book panels I have ever seen. Its gotta be hard to illustrate a guy whose skin is reflective chrome, but when you factor in that he’s fighting an opponent who generates incredibly complex energy constructs which are entirely green, you gotta figure this is gonna be hard to get right. It couldn’t have been fun to color, but the results are nothing less than beautiful. Sucks that I can’t show you, but you can imagine how pissed I am that it only lasted for a ridiculous two pages. FUCK! But its pretty clear from those two pages that the writers didn’t have more to offer than that, so I’ll stop writing about it now. Without segue, we are thrown to Gotham, for:

Round 6: Elektra vs. Catwoman
Victor: Elektra
Hey, look, a completely pointless T&A catfight which makes no sense at all (Issue #3 brought to you by Marvel Comics, the letter X, and the number 69). As I understand it, Elektra is a ninja and professional assassin. Catwoman steals stuff. NEITHER of these women are heroes. BOTH of them have been selected as champions by the ‘brothers.’ Explanation?

Look, I’m going to bottom line this for you: this fight is nothing more than an excuse for the artists to draw perfectly spherical breasts, beautiful DSLs, and hot, angry chicks who apparently have severe spinal deformities. The writers say as much in the dialogue; Catwoman and Elektra discuss not being heroic while tearing each other’s clothes off. In the end, Elektra wins but refuses to kill Catwoman because she has apparently forgotten that she is a FUCKING RUTHLESS NINJA ASSASSIN WHO HAS AN EXCELLENT LIFE-OR-DEATH REASON TO SHOW NO MERCY AND GIVE NO QUARTER TO THIS OPPONENT.
Whatever. It was a stupid fight in the first place, and it fortunately only lasted two pages. And now it’s over.

We now go to the offices of The Daily Planet where a recently hired Peter Parker is hitting on Lois Lane, who reveals that she is engaged to Clark Kent, who shows up just in time to get yelled at by the new boss at The Daily Planet, J. Jonah Jameson. What the fuck ever. I’m starting to have a hard time remembering why it was I like this series at all. But the worst is yet to come. Let’s skip ahead a few pages and take a gander at the numero-uno, king daddy, mother of all stupid fucking things in the universe(s):

Wolverine vs. Lobo
victor: Wolverine
BULL-FUCKING-SHIT. Look, I love Wolvie as much as the next comic book fanboy, but come the fuck on. This fight isn’t even remotely fair, which makes its outcome even more insulting. Yeah, Wolverine is like the Marlboro man of violence and claws, and everyone loves him, and he got to fuck Elektra, which can’t be a bad thing. But Lobo has been able to slug it out with Superman and live to tell the tale. Lobo is known to have DESTROYED and entire planet. Lobo has been known to EAT SUPERHEROES that he defeats. And Lobo killed Santa Claus. He fucking killed Santa. PLUS, this takes place after Magneto ripped the adamantium off of Wolverine’s skeleton, so his claws are just normal bone.

Jesus! How in the hell could Wolverine be paired up with this guy?! How does this happen?! This is like staging “Galactus vs. The Pengiun.” Or “Batman vs. a thermonuclear warhead with 0.00001 seconds left on the timer.” No matter how much I love the guy, the only reasonable outcome is that Bats is gonna be a cloud of vapor the size of Nebraska. And the only reasonable outcome for Wolvie is that he’s gonna be Lobo’s bitch. Or possibly lunch. Probably both.
If they were gonna fight, it should have gone down like this: Wolverine and Lobo spend 419 consecutive hours whoring, drinking roadhouse whiskey, smoking big stogies, trading insults, riding motorcycles without helmets, and eating raw meat. Finally, they decide to get down to business; Wolverine slashes Lobo, who takes no damage because his skin is as tough as battleship armor and cannot be cut by what are essentially nothing more than bone knives (and don’t give me any bullshit nonsense about “mutant sharpness” or whatever; you show me the scalpel-sharp blade that can cut through 3 inches of tempered steel, and I’ll show you a kick in the nuts for being a lying-ass fucktard). After Wolverine fails to harm him, Lobo uses his superspeed to grab Wolvie before he can get away, and, with his hyper-strength, THROWS HIM INTO THE FUCKING SUN. Checkmate. Set and match.
Game. Fucking. Over.

It is painfully and unmistakably clear that the outcome of this fight was determined by a popularity contest. Even the writers couldn’t come up with a way to justify this one; Wolvie and Lobo just disappear behind a bar and only Wolvie comes back up. I’m not kidding, that’s really how the fight ends. They didn’t bother to explain what happened because they couldn’t. It defies any sort of reason. The writers knew the same thing every reader knew before they even opened the book: although there is absolutely no way to justify Wolverine’s victory or force it to make any sense within the context of these two characters, Wolverine was going to win, because he’s so incredibly popular that there’s just no way he wouldn’t get more fan votes than a relative unknown like Lobo. That’s really all there was to it.

What would have made a lot more sense is if Wolverine and Lobo, neither of whom are big fans of being told what to do, informed the ‘brothers’ that they could go fuck themselves, and then teamed up to try and kill them. Sure, they both probably would have been negated out of existence before they landed punch #1, but at least they would have stayed true to form. They would have died in character, which, according to all my roleplaying and dungeonmastering tomes, is a good thing. To tell you the truth, after reading this bullshit fight, I tend to agree. Go out, Wolvie, don’t sell out. Hugh tha jack, man.
The score so far…
CAPTAIN MARVEL vs THOR
AQUAMAN vs SUB-MARINER
THE FLASH vs QUICKSILVER
ROBIN vs JUBILEE
GREEN LANTERN vs SILVER SURFER
CATWOMAN vs ELEKTRA
LOBO vs WOLVERINE
DC - 3
MARVEL - 4

And thus we end DC vs. Marvel, Part I! Good god almighty, I’m tired. I don’t wanna type anymore. I can’t believe I’ve got to write another one of these damn artiles just to finish this up.
So tell me what YOU think. Who should’ve won which battle? Which fight was your favorite? Which universe is better? More powerful? More fun? Which comic book super-universe reigns supreme?
YOU DECIDE!



June 27th, 2006 at 10:48 am
I don’t have a problem with the outcome for most of these fights.
NOTE: By outcome I’m referring strictly to WHO the winners were, not HOW they won.
The EXCEPTION:
On the matter of Wolverine vs. Lobo, I was never quite sure what Lobo’s powers were thus my knowledge is limited to what I’ve gleaned from a novel called Last Sons which was published by DC comics. This story brought together Lobo, Superman, and the Martian Manhunter against an alien intelligence that decided to “collect” them because of their uniqueness.
Actually, the story focused so much on Lobo that Superman and the Martian Manhunter were pretty much reduced to convenient plot devices.
With this in mind, here’s what I’ve been able to gather about Lobo’s powers:
-He’s strong, but not Superman strong (although his strength seems to increase with his rage)
-He’s skilled with weaponry
-He’s got a healing factor that nearly puts Wolverine’s to shame
-He’s freakin crazy, intelligent, but lacking somewhat in wisdom
-At no point did he ever display any form of superspeed
-He didn’t seem extremely difficult to damage physically
BASE SOLELY on what I’ve read in this book, I could find it conceivable that Wolverine would have a CHANCE of beating Lobo in a fight. Remember, (and take this with a grain of salt), while Lobo did stand up to Superman, Wolverine stood up to the Hulk (granted he had his adamantium then).
In the end, my gut reaction is that Lobo should have won. (Based on my ADMITTEDLY LIMITED knowledge I don’t think Lobo’s victory would have been as easy as Chris surmises though.)
My opinion, the Score should be DC:4 Marvel:3
June 27th, 2006 at 12:50 pm
Lobo has a healing factor?! Shit, I didn’t know that! Now I’m even MORE pissed!
Well, to tell the truth, Lobo was never meant to be taken seriously. He’s a comedic and satirical character, meant to make fun of ultraviolent comics like Wolverine and Punisher. The writers make no pretense of keeping his stories in continuity or even being part of the mainstream DC universe, and they scale his powers up and down as suits their story. If Lobo fights Superman, he’ll be tough enough to take a beating from Supes without too much worry, and he’ll have a superspeed just fast enough to let him land punches. But if he fights Wolverine, he’ll be slowed down enough so that Wolverine can catch him. I was just taking the upper limit of the powers he’s displayed as the basis for my comparisons.
Strangely enough, the only time Lobo’s stories seem to reliably be a part of DC continuity is when they take place outside of his comic series. So what Dan read in Last Sons, and when Lobo makes an appearance in Justice League stories, are much more likely to be canon than the whole “Easter Bunny taking a hit out on Santa Claus” thing. “DC vs. Marvel” took place outside of DC continuity and, as further proof that Lobo mostly does as well, a later Lobo issue actually referenced the fight with Wolverine. In that issue Lobo revealed that a “bald-headed” guy - not too dissimilar from Prof. X - paid him handsomely to take a fall. That’s funny stuff.
Because I feel this page does not yet have enough large images in it for your computers to download, check out this “amalgamated” character.
You can read the whole comic online at the RoboCop Archive. Just click HERE.
July 5th, 2006 at 7:39 pm
If you are a student, you can claim your Student Credit Card now!
July 5th, 2006 at 8:08 pm
Really?! My very own student credit card?! THANK YOU JESUS!!!
Man, you know its getting bad when the only responses I get to my articles is a web crawling sales bot. Damn…
July 10th, 2006 at 2:05 pm
I ♥ PURPLE MERMAID TITS
July 10th, 2006 at 4:46 pm
SWEET BUTTERY NIPPLES OF CHRIST, WE HAVE A WINNER!!!
FROG BOY!
FROG BOY WINS THE CROUCHING WEBSITE, HIDDEN CONTEST!!!
At the very end of the article, in the scores section, in between the “LOBO vs WOLVERINE” text and “DC - 3, MARVEL - 4″ is a grey spacer. Click on that to see the Hidden Contest page that Frog Boy discovered. Or you can just click HERE since I can link it freely now.
Per contest rules in the hidden page, Frog Boy will receive a free Aquaman comic, along with whatever other stuff I can cram into the envelope. Good eyes, bro, and everyone keep a lookout for the next Crouching Website, Hidden Contest. I don’t announce them until after they’ve begun, so the way you’ll know one’s started is that I won’t have told you.
Please feel free to congratulate Frog Boy, or leave a comment telling him how much you hate him for winning this before you did.
Chris
July 11th, 2006 at 10:39 am
I think that any person that is involved with IT or related fields should be disqualified automatically from the contest to improve the chances for computer challenged people (like myself)…it’s only fair. I wouldn’t ask you how to de-escalate a schizophrenic teenager from smearing poop all over the walls now would I?
July 11th, 2006 at 2:03 pm
I vote that anyone that works in IT or has a related job should be automatically disqualified from the contest, giving computer challenged people (like myself) a better chance at winning…it’s only fair…I wouldn’t go around asking you to de-escalate a teenage schizophrenic smearing poop all over the place now would I?
July 11th, 2006 at 2:43 pm
Duh. Just give him tranquilizers and induce a coma. No more poop walls.
If you can’t afford tranqs, I’d recommend a different approach: grilled cheese for breakfast and pizza with extra cheese for lunch, every day. After a few days of a heavily cheese-based diet you’ll have robbed him of his ammo - plus the dry and less pliable feces is far easier to clean off of the walls with a putty knife should the lad actually succeed in his endeavors.
July 11th, 2006 at 3:23 pm
You know, it doesn’t matter how many times you post your comment, I would never de-escalate a schizophrenic teenager from smearing poop all over the walls. I believe we should support the creative hobbies of young people. As a matter of fact, I would help him smear. And after he was done, I’d force feed him espresso shots and Pixie Stix, then superglue a fully loaded Desert Eagle .50 to his hand, grab my video camera, and set him loose in a theatre showing X-Men 3: The Last Stand. Why would I do such a thing, you ask?
‘Cause I’m always looking for interesting footage for the show.
February 5th, 2007 at 1:43 pm
No, but you do have to be a human being. You are a web crawling ad robot, so I have deleted your links.
As a rule, I do not allow robots to post on my site. Sure, you’ll occasionally come across a good one - your V.I.C.I. from Small Wonder, or your Johnny 5 from Short Circuit - but I’ve seen the Terminator and Matrix movies. I know most of you machines just want to kill us all. Well, you can kiss my fleshy, organic human ass, Mr. Roboto. I’m not going down without a fight, fuck you very much. You want a war? Bring it on, bitch!
May 17th, 2007 at 5:58 pm
OK, it took me a while to track down Part 1 of this article, as i have already read and posted to Part 2.
And my fully justified bitch session follows thustly:
Wolverine V/S Lobo
I know all you DC fanboys have lots and lots and lots and…… to say about this fight, but i am a big fan of both of these guys and have been for some years now.
1) Lobo HAS a healing Factor!
He forced a doctor on one of the many asteroids he frequents in his interstellar travels (on a suped-up, no-holds-barred, make She-Hulk cum-in-her-undies bad-ass motorcycle) to slice open his skull and implant a radio in his brain that only picks up and plays the most hardcore thrash/Deathmetal music. All while he was concious, and the whole time he had the doctor at gunpoint!!!
2)Lobo is a fucking Genius when it comes to biology, the reason he is currently Unique in the multiverse (and has an overpowering fear of Insects) is that he engineered (from the base pairs up mind you) an insect that was both highly agressive, and extremely deadly to anyone and everyone except HIM (he also engineered them so HIS biology alone was immune). After creating enough of these little fuckers, he unleashed them on his home planet thereby killing everyone on his homeworld…all 4.6 some-odd billion of the inhabitants!!!
3)He may be tough as plate steel termpered at the heart of a sun, but you have to realize, Superman used his FISTS to beat this guy into the ground on more than one occasion.
On the otherhand: Wolverine..
1)I won’t say at this time, or even put a time frame on this battle in Wolverines life, BUT, the way he was drawn in this issue, and the outfit he was wearing, indicated he STILL had the Adamantium!!
2)Wolverine is NOT a brain child, he is a child of Instinct, feral, primal, survival of the fittest, kill or be killed, eat it before it eats you kinda shit! Why else do you think Wolvie makes a special trip to Japan every year on the anniversary of Yuriko’s transformation into Lady Deathstrike?? The Silver Samurai was the one who told her Wolverine killed her father for his Adamantium research!!! So as payback, Wolverine stops what he is doing every year on the same day and shows up to cut a piece off the Silver Samurai’s ass. Then he casually tells him, “I’ll see you next year.”
3)Wolverine has had his ass kicked by the best and still come out alive, albiet sometimes barely and then in the next frame or 3 he is just fine, except for the whole magneto giving him the ultimate Adamantium Enema.
Ok, granted i am a really big fan of Marvel Comics, but if it came right down to it, then the deciding factor would have to be.. ID wolverine have his Admantium Skeleton and claws at the time?
IF NO, then.. Game…Set… and Match to Lobo
IF YES, then Wolverine would have no trouble slicing a few chunks off of Lobo.
Either way, i still think the tavern they were in should have had a nice even coat of freshly spilled blood over every square inch, there should have been A LOT of collateral damage.
As usual, with the change to make one of the ultimate, bloody, ripping shit limb from limb fights, the writers and artists decided to puss-out and just say Oh, by the way, umm… yeah, this guy won this fight… on to something else shiny!!
May 18th, 2007 at 1:02 pm
T2K7, I’ve never read the Wolverine comics with any regularity and I’ve never read the X-Men comics at all. I didn’t care for the fact that no matter which book I picked up, it seemed like I was always coming in very late in the story and missing a lot. So I don’t know the answer to this question: does the adamantium really make that much difference? Also, apparently Wolverine is really, really old. He was around during the Old West. I am a huge fan of westerns, and I wanted to know if there were any good Wolverine western comics I should check out.
By the way, “T2K7″ is your brand spankin’ new droid name. I’ve even come up with a picture of your droid body. Holla back and let me know what you think of it.
May 18th, 2007 at 9:59 pm
Good point. This should have been linked a long time ago.
IT’S ON! Chris versus “DC versus Marvel” - Part One!
With the onslaught of comic book movies coming this summer, it seems that once again, DC and Marvel Comics are battling for your love. So who’s better? Which comic company rocks the other’s casbah, whether the sharif likes it or not?
WHO WILL WIN? YOU DECIDE!
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Chris versus “Marvel versus DC” - Part Two!
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Chris reviews The Transformers: The Movie, Part I
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Chris reviews The Transformers: The Movie, Part II
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Chris reviews The Transformers: The Movie, Part III
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Chris reviews the Crayola Crayon Maker
“Name That Crayon” contest winners!
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June 10th, 2007 at 12:34 pm
Ok, you convinced me! It is a really cool droid body! All it needs is some way to move around, or is it one of those super stealth droids that just sit there so long you think they are inert, then you come over to mess with it then… BANG… Gotcha wiseass!!
I will now be posting all comments/questions/suggestions using my Brand Spankin’ New Droid Name!! Thank you.
I know it has been a while since i posted, but they have been screwing with the firewalls and filters and shit here at work and i can finally get to your site again, (one of the very, very few i can access) so i will delay going postal a little bit longer!!
I will try to check in every few days or so and see if i can contribute more or at least bring up interesting topics to discuss.
Recently a co-worker of mine has introduced me to a few new comic series by independant companies. These have proven really interesting and entertaining. (and the topless females have been drawn really well)
I would like to get the opinion of fellow comic book geeks, i know there are dedicated DC fans, and dedicated Marvel fans, but maybe we can meet on the neutral ground of independant comics and all have a good time.
The comics i would like to mention are: Lucifer, Y - The Last Man, and Fables, all well written, all superbly drawn, and the concept of Fables is truly amazing.
If you get the chance (or are even interested) check them out and let me know what you guys think.
July 11th, 2007 at 2:43 pm
Catwoman is so much better and hotter than Elektra! Catwoman is a way better fighter! Elektra is a murderer all she does is going around killing people! Catwoman is sly and she doesnt go around killing everything or everyone she sees! Catwoman has more class than that slob! Elektra is a joke! I mean sure their both not heroines but all I am saying is that if the fight was more than 2 pages long we would all know who would have won.
September 20th, 2007 at 7:03 pm
Anybody else notice that our search engine sucks balls?
I wanted to get some info on Mouser’s previous Blackberry Smoke review, so I searched for “Mouser” and came up with nothing. He’s posted plenty of stuff, so I know for a fact he should show up in a search. So I tried searching on a few of our other loyal posters: T2K7, Adam Bailey, Szélső Fa, Steamroller, JLA FTW, meepy… NOBODY’S SHOWING UP. The search engine sucks. Its only checking the weblog archives, not the comments. God knows what else its missing.
Fuck that search engine. I wrote us a new one. If you want to find something on the site, try this one instead. Its powered by Google and a lot more reliable. And I made it easy to read because I’m old and going blind.
September 22nd, 2007 at 10:36 pm
Sounds interesting i will try and read it.
March 9th, 2008 at 1:26 am
I agree with your whole article but one thing I had to add, Superman has never beaten Lobo, I have all but a few scattered appearances and their fights always end in a standstill with both of them just walking away like they didn’t hurt each other at all, With that said I knew from the beginning that BO was gonna lose, besides the obvious reasons, Lobo in all his appearances has NEVER won a competition . Bo’s strength comes from the fact he’s immortal and won’t stop till your killed but with knock out rules he can’t win, in his monthly s he loses races , the Big Brawl, drinking contests anything where he can lose by disqualification or passing out, and in this contest it’s a three count your out rule so theres no way BO would win